Friday, May 20, 2005

Let's burn the Koran

As you may have noticed, burning the American flag is as pastime in Islamic countries, even though it must equal the cost of the average burka. Cost is no object when it comes to desecrating a beloved American symbol – the symbol of civilization’s triumph over the barbarity of totalitarian fascism and Japanese imperialism. But then again, some instinctually know what side of the line they belong.

Have you notice the Korans being burnt on campuses of American Universities? You missed that? How about the Koran burings in Union Square by the usual anarchists? No, you missed that also? Such acts seem to be a major concern for our honorable men and women in Congress … or at least one, Mr. John Conyers, who, according to this article, has introduced a resolution that “condemns bigotry and intolerance against any religious group, including our friends, neighbors and citizens of the Islamic faith.” (Hat tip: Sixth Column)

I find this offensive. In response, I will send my representatives the following letter:
I must protest any resolution, such as that offered by Rep. Conyers, or any law that specifies respect for a religion. The 1st amendment, which allows freedom of religion, also allows freedom to speak out against religion. In addition, Islam is a political ideology first and foremost. To restrict political speech is a gross violation of the 1st amendment which threatens the very discourse required for a functioning democracy.

If there is a resolution or law in response to the allegations of disrespect to the Koran, I will join with others to organize public desecrations of the Koran to demonstrate that Americans can and will be free to criticize any idea or belief system in any way they choose. This offensive resolution requires a severe response. We will not be silenced.
Come to think of it, why not respond to their flag burning with a Koran burning? That, of course, is how some of us feel about Islam. Why not be honest about it? Why don’t we tell them what we feel about their culture and religion? Islam is a shameful religion. As Muslims kill for any perceived slight or merely to reaffirm the religion, they earn our contempt. Shame and honor are a central focus of Islamic societies, shouldn’t they hear about the shame and dishonor that they’ve brought upon themselves?

Of course, an articulated refutation of the Islamic ideology is preferable. But they are mostly illiterate – as illiterate as their Prophet. A good Koran burning – or perhaps one on a regular basis – is something they are not expecting. They will certainly wonder why. Or perhaps they might face the fact that the world is sick and tired of the bullshit that emanates from Islamic countries.

Well, I was intending this to be a family website but I guess that last sentence was a bit impolite. Sometimes I get carried away. Oh, by the way, feel free to send the above letter to your representatives or paste this article with or without credit.


Blogger beakerkin said...

I am glad you mentioned Union Square . I stopped a flag burning
there in August . The question of the use of Mountain Dew to save a flag and douse a Communist I leave up to you. Fortunately Communists
are not known for machismo, at least the males.

I do not like burning books in general as it carries negative conotations. I will give you my copy of Stupid White Men or My Life.

The truth is this hypersensitivity
is a problem. It has never been
done in the history of Islam. There was no such respect at the Tomb of Joseph, Church of the Nativity and with the Buddhas of Bamiyan.

Yet if we want to upset the left
throw in a few vollumes of Marx
and Chomsky.

5/20/05, 9:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish the president of the US would warn the islamist that for every US flag that was burned in islamic countries, 2 copies of the koran would be publicly burned in the US.

5/21/05, 2:26 AM  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

I agree with you that burning books has a negative connotation. But the Koran is their inflammatory manual, going well beyond religion.

Islam is indeed first a political ideologly. Does the general public understand that? I think not.

WARNING! Sarcasm in the following paragraph:
Now the MSM are yapping about how Muslims have been disrespected by the showing of So Damn Insane in his underwear. Even the White House has commented on these photos, and I'm not happy with some of those comments. "Respect human dignity"? Yeah, right. So Damn Insane was really a respecter of human dignity, wasn't he? So were the 9/11 jihadists, right?
--end of sarcasm--

Personally, I don't WANT to see that megalomaniac at all, ESPECIALLY in his underwear.

For the second weekend in a row, it seems that the MSM are intentionally trying to incite the Muslim world. In their enthusiasm to discredit GWB, they are leaping to publish a false story and disgusting photos.
But here's what really bothers me. If Westerners constantly strive not to offend Islamists, how far away are we from denying our Western heritage and losing our First Amendment rights? The only way to keep from offending islamists and to "repair our image in the Muslim world" is to become a caliphate.

These islamists are damn "sensitve" people, but they don't seem to mind sawing off heads or flying planes into buildings or from practicing many other barbaric customs.

5/21/05, 8:31 AM  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

Just saw this on Anti-CAIR [Note the last sentence. If I remember correctly, this is koranic doctrine.]:

- When Muslims barbarically desecrated the Church of the Nativity in 2002, what did CAIR have to say?

- What was CAIR’s reaction when Islamofascists of the Taliban theocracy destroyed 2 ancient statues of the Buddha in Afghanistan back in 2001?

- When Muslims severely damaged Joseph’s Tomb with pick axes and fire in 2000, what was CAIR’s reaction?

CAIR’s reaction was simple: no reaction. Who would CAIR condemn? Muslims? No, in CAIR’s perverted world view, no crime can be attributed to a Muslim against a non-Muslim. There is no barbarity, no banality that cannot be excused by simply knowing that the victim…was not a Muslim.

5/21/05, 9:00 AM  
Blogger onehouse said...

Today is Saturday, Muslims upset.
Suns beat Mavericks in 6, Muslims upset.

Ricky Williams may play again: Muslims upset.

Hurrican season starts in 10 days: Muslims upset.

Terrorists hijack 4 planes and kill over 3,000 in the name of Allah: Muslims .... Muslims.... hey, where'd they go?

5/21/05, 9:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great post, I wholehaertedly agree with you. News-flash for Islamists: With real freedom comes the right to do things like burn the koran, bible or flag. I posted on this subject the other day.

5/21/05, 2:43 PM  
Blogger Jeffrey Perren said...

With apologies to David Brown,
I'm withdrawing my nomination of him for the Presidency and placing your name in the hat instead.

5/21/05, 8:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those who find that burning the Koran leaves a bad taste in one’s mouth, I maintain that the preferred manner to desecrate the Koran is with pork fat.

5/22/05, 7:27 AM  
Blogger Jason Pappas said...

I agree, I find the symbolism of book burning distasteful; "anonymous" has it right about the proper way to desecrate the Koran.

Another problem is demonstrations themselves. As I said, they are a poor substitute for rational exposition and they usually bring out all the kooks who are just embarrassing to the cause. I remember how the first leftist demonstration against the Iraq War was full of people holding posters saying Bush is Hitler. That must have been an embarrassment. … On second thought – those were the organizers!

However, since this is my most cited blog post, not only demonstrations but even the mere thought of a demonstration brings attention to the issue. For example here, here, here, and here. “Always” is right, most people don’t understand the nature of Islam as a political ideology. And mustang (see his post on Conyers, too) points out in a private e-mail that Muslims, on a regular basis, demonstrate and express their intension to subject the world to Islamic rule.

People just want to look the other way and pretend that facts aren’t what they are: Islam is, first and foremost, a political ideology founded by a man who slaughtered, plundered, conquered, ruled, oppressed, terrorized, and ethnically cleansed Medina of Jews.

Thus, I come to understand the motivation for demonstrations. Sometimes you just want to wake people up.

5/22/05, 9:02 AM  
Blogger beakerkin said...


I understand the history of Islam
but lets talk about reality. I have
been threatened in NYC for discussing Coptic, Assyrian and Jewish history. The people that threatened me were Muslims. The question is are you prepared for what might happen.

You are also well aware of what happened in Jersey City. My friends in the Coptic community were worried for my safety.

The question is are we going to be intimidated into silence. For my friend Sammy the answer is yes. He has family in Egypt and I do not blame him or call him a coward.

On the other hand we are Americans
and nobody silences me.

5/22/05, 2:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a general message for any Muslim who wants to kill me for voicing my opinion: Bring a gun and your prayer book. Now, since everyone is in the right mood for this, check this out == and lets all hum "Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition" while we're reading:§ion=middleeast&col=

5/22/05, 3:43 PM  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

Beak & Mustang,

My American flag is very visible where I live, on a road which sometimes feel like the hub of the universe. And I'm not shy about speaking my views. Guess I'm a visible target. I refuse to be a politically correct dhimmi.

5/22/05, 9:28 PM  
Blogger beakerkin said...


I am searching Conyers record but he has extensive ties to Communists
and the Institute for Policy Studies. Breindel wrote about him
as well as Ron Dellums , Crocket
and Metzenbaum it is not in the book.

He voted against the flag burning
and desecration amendments. Our symbols mean nothing but a koran
gets a treatment not accorded to our flag.

5/22/05, 10:44 PM  
Blogger (((Thought Criminal))) said...

Why burn the Koran? Just put stickers on it: "Government Advisory: May Cause Terrorism."

5/23/05, 2:34 AM  
Blogger Always On Watch said...

Conyers voted against the flag-burning amendment but wants to give special status to the koran??? That says it all! Pandering to his Muslim constituency means more to Conyers than this nation. Beyond that, such dhimmitude just fuels the jihadists' rage.

5/23/05, 8:05 AM  
Blogger Jason Pappas said...

Damn good point! That indeed says it all. Has anyone written about this in the mainstream media – or even on some of the big blogs? I know mustang talks about it on his blog.

And you right about appeasement – dhimmitude, in particular - making them more embolden. It does indeed fuel their rage. Most people have it backwards.

5/23/05, 10:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree, we need to do away with Islam because it is a violent religion. If a cult ordered the sacrifice of a goat to its god, it'd be shut down real fast. The Koran orders the death of the infidels, which are people, but they're one of the religions still in practice. Apparently some people think a goat's life is more important than thousands of people's lives. I say we need to end this crap.

12/4/05, 4:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I loved reading the comments here. I agree that concerned people must start offending muslims at every possible oppurtunity. I particularly like the pig's blood idea. My own method involves pig fecal matter. I live in a rural setting which allows me the oppurtunity for much scatological excess in regards to the koran. I won't be satisfied until I have a price on my head.

4/29/06, 12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Islam should be feard like communism was during the cold war. I do not like the idea of burning books. It pollutes the atmospher. Plus im not gonna buy a koran to burn it. I will try to get a free copy from local mosque and decorate my bathroom with it. I think what we should do is Translate books which insult islam with an intelligent argument and drop em in massive number over islamic countries. -NM

11/17/06, 4:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got a koran just to study the violence in it. I, however, also found a large deal of bigotry and hatred towards non-muslims. It's one thing to hate others, but choosing to kill others because of that hatred is ridiculous. By the way, you hit it right on the nail. Amercans should burn Korans. Just don't tell that to a muslim with a gun in front of your face if you know what I mean.

2/14/07, 11:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just sell the muslims bullets and rifles packed in pig grease. This is how you hand it to the muslims. Sell them cookware that has been pre-used for cooking pork chops....yummy

3/5/07, 2:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Personally, I feel that Islam should just be banned. It's too dangerous. Freedom has it's limits. Why should people be free to follow islamic lives? They believe in bullshit. Fuck them all.

3/16/07, 6:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"let's burn the Koran"? geat idea! why, cause we're all steriotypical right winged facists! see the american government premoted nazism untill 1941, then they were at war with them in 1942! the Notion of race is a nice juicy one in germany and america at the time. but most americans voted for people who loved the nazi regieme, america supported the germans rebuild hteir army, 1 US dollar was equiveralant to 5.3 trillion Deutschmarks in november 1933, and easially paid off some debts.
islam is not like anyother religion, it is a set package; the complete way to live your life; what to eat, when to sleep, when to pray, what to where, where you live, who you interact with, and the right to declare a personal jihad(real great idea) which is a small scale impirialistic way of creating a globally unified islamic state, yay! we all love islam, or not, it controls your entire life, it was once said "there is no poverty like ignorance, and not wealth like knowlege" so, who lead the industrial reverlution? was it London, or Mecca, can someone correct my history i'm not sure.
at the end of the race for colonies was it the UK or persia that had the world's largest empire? again please, i need help!
the notion of islam is very stupid, eg. the prophet mohammed had a deformed penis! let's deform our penises and son's penises against there will. any religion should not be imposed on any child untill they are old engouth to be cofrupted by any form of religeous corruption.
islam is more facist than Hitler was, he burnt all the books in berlin which did not appeal to him, so, why don't we do the same with islamic text?
Men, Women, Children, to save your lifestyle, freedom of speech and expression you must defeat the globe's common foe, Men, Women, Children of the civilized, secular, democratic nations of the world, unite!

you have a world to recapute!

5/3/07, 8:08 AM  

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