Thursday, November 17, 2005

People Are Waking-Up

Below, I listed a few quotes from conservatives showing an increased awareness of the Islamic problem. The President has taken a step in the right direction by changing his rhetoric from “hijackers” to an “ideology.” That opens the discussion as to the nature of the ideology.

We also see changes in France. The French support Sarkozy’s tough stance.

In our fight against Communism, the signs of a major change came in the 1980s with leaders like Walesa, Reagan, and Thatcher. At the time, however, I found it telling that the long-standing Western European Communist parties were losing membership. In France, the early 1980s saw a sizable drop in Party support. That signaled the end of the love affair with communism (with the exception of hopeless intellectuals.)

Now, with regard to the Islamic threat, we are starting to see some signs, here and abroad, of the first steps down the road of change.

4 Comments:

Blogger Caroline said...

I have my own personal barometer regarding the changing tide, namely, that I can actually email a couple of articles to my seriously lefty sister in the um, Northwest (lefty enough to have published an article in Counterpunch) and I know she can't dismiss the information as boilerplate frontpagemag (she despises Horowitz).

I am thinking of these 2 articles that appeared at jihadwatch in the past few days:

The Nation: Fire and Fury on the Euro-Arab Street

CSM: Not all Muslims want to integrate

I rate these articles, "Lefty-safe". I'm quite apprehensive about an upcoming week-long family reunion over Thanksgiving in which we'll actually be in the same room together for the first time in 2 years. But by emailing these articles to her in advance I'm hoping to somehow... Soften the blow? Grease the axle? Diffuse the fuse? Whatever. I suck at metaphor...

11/17/05, 9:11 PM  
Blogger Jason_Pappas said...

It’s interesting how some people have a visceral response to David Horowitz, perhaps because he doesn’t hold his punches. I enjoy his hard-hitting style even if my temperament is obviously different. Nevertheless, he has a broad spectrum of writers on the right and center. Lawrence Auster and Tammy Bruce on the same page? He’ll include Robert Spencer but also Stephen Schwartz (who strikes me as a loose cannon at times … but so what?) One thing about Horowitz is that his door is open for discussion.

It’s interesting to look for telltale signs. Islamic uprising in France – the supposed anti-thesis of American when it comes to dealing with Muslims – should wake a few people up ... especially in light of the events of Holland. Add Beslan and Bali and you wonder how people can still blame everything on Bush. Let’s face it; the left doesn’t really want to defend Islam in their hearts. Hopefully, most will break with the far left.

I’m amused when I see the Left switch from “Christianity is as bad as Islam” to “why can’t Islam become a reformed and moderate practice like contemporary Christianity?” They just can’t make-up their mind.

In any case, fortunately, my family is apolitical and my in-laws are sympathetic to how I think.

11/17/05, 9:55 PM  
Blogger Caroline said...

I was apolitical prior to 9/11 and so never formed a political identity. That made it relatively easy for me to simply start reading and gravitate towards whomever I discerned was being truthful, without suffering any cognitive dissonance. I realize that it is much harder for people who have staked their identity (often backed up by actions) on certain beliefs over several decades and also have a large social circle of like-minded people to whom they are essentially accountable.

Re why the tide is turning at this point to the extent that we would see something in the Nation of all places, yes - I think it has everything to do with France. There's obviously a last ditch effort to avoid the "Islamic" problem by attributing the unrest to racism, unemployment etc. but the French riots dispel the illusion that the Muslim problem is a direct consequence of American foreign policy. That's a huge step forward. (Plus there's that added little twist that France is the home of postmodernist, leftist thought). As Europe faces deeper problems, I fully expect that the left here will come totally around (and as you imply, the process unfolding will be an interesting thing to watch). Hopefully by then it won't be too late.

11/17/05, 10:34 PM  
Blogger Jason_Pappas said...

As you said in the other thread, you think like a psychologist. And you’re right. It takes time to reconsider a worldview. I’ve found with most people that just raising a doubt or politely saying you feel differently, plants a seed that eventually yields good results.

11/18/05, 8:44 AM  

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